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医 -- stroke order

daveonhols   May 31st, 2009 9:55a.m.

Hello,

I think the stroke order for yi1 (as in yi sheng) is wrong. The last stroke, it wants me to go from bottom right to bottom left, then up from bottom left to top left. I thought this is backwards and mdbg agrees with me:

http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/popup_animation_strokes.php?uvd=21307

Also is this character unusual in so far as the radical (top, left and bottom) is started and left incomplete, then finished after the rest of the character is completed? In my limited expereince I can't think of any other characters in Chinese that are done like that.

Thanks
David

PS if you are going to disable anonomous posting you could tell people before they type out their entire message :P

ximeng   May 31st, 2009 10:00a.m.

I think it's the same principle as 回: fill in the edge of the box, then the middle, then close the box. It's unusual in that the box only has three sides. The final stroke should be top-left -> bottom-left -> bottom-right, I think this is what Skritter gives me normally.

Hobbes828   May 31st, 2009 10:34a.m.

Yeah i haven't noticed a problem with that type of character before, not 100% sure about 医 in particular though.

acd   May 31st, 2009 2:59p.m.
daveonhols   May 31st, 2009 3:50p.m.

Now you mention it I can think of loads where the radical is only completed at the end ... guo2 (country) is another.

But the point about skritter having the direction of the last stroke wrong, does anyone else see that?

David

nick   June 1st, 2009 10:08a.m.

If it's giving you a false "stroke backwards" message, that's not an uncommon mistake. Skritter can't always tell when a squig is going the right direction yet for some strokes. When I get back, I'll turn off the backwards message for that stroke. Let me know which others you run into.

daveonhols   June 1st, 2009 10:46a.m.

Hello, thanks for the feedback.

I actually got the impression that the problem here was that the character is set up wrong, rather than that that the code misclassifies my input. Not sure if the distinction is meaningful though. I got a code refresh just now so presumably that means you've pushed through this change. If it comes up again I'll have another look. Is there anyway to trick this one into coming up soon?

Thanks
David

nick   June 1st, 2009 11:18a.m.

I'm actually on vacation visiting Chloe for her graduation from Wellesley until Friday yet, so a code update is going to be Scott doing something else (probably fixing some tasty bugs I left for him).

The character itself should be set up correctly. We don't have any strokes that really expect to go left, then up.

gattosilvestro   June 2nd, 2009 7:45a.m.

I've just reviewed the character and the stroke order was correct.

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